Insomnia (insomnia) wrote,

Future American lawyers to be proud of.

... and Alberto Gonzales.

Alberto Gonzales spoke before law students at Georgetown today, justifying illegal, unauthorized surveilance of US citizens, but during the course of his speech the students in class did something pretty ballsy and brave. They got up from their seats and turned their backs to him.

To make matters worse for Gonzales, additional students came into the room, wearing black cowls and carrying a simple banner, written on a sheet.

Fortunately for him, it was a brief speech... followed by a panel discussion that basically ripped his argument a new asshole.

And, as one of the people on the panel said,

"When you're a law student, they tell you if say that if you can't argue the law, argue the facts. They also tell you if you can't argue the facts, argue the law. If you can't argue either, apparently, the solution is to go on a public relations offensive and make it a political issue... to say over and over again "it's lawful", and to think that the American people will somehow come to believe this if we say it often enough.

In light of this, I'm proud of the very civil civil disobedience that was shown here today."

- David Cole, Georgetown University Law Professor

It was a good day for dissent.
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January 25 2006, 20:07:49 UTC 12 years ago

Good! I hate seeing people try to steal the rights of the American people. I hope he was embarassed.
After 38 years in the millitary I say thank god some young people have the balls to due what is right,and future lawyers no less
Why is it when the government's power is used to steal property from one person and give it to another (social security / welfare) it is acceptable. But when it is prudently used to safeguard the saftey of its citizens in a time of war it is critized? Remember it was the father of social-welfare FDR that committed the largest "wartime" crime in United States history, the internment of thousands of ethnic Japanese United States Citizens.

The current President is trying to keep tabs on a multitude of non U.S. cititzens and resident aliens.

lighten up.
Lighten up yourself. Tell me what the government can do for us that we cannot do better and I'll prove you wrong.
Awesome! It's good to see students with strong beliefs and backbones.


January 25 2006, 20:16:15 UTC 12 years ago

NPR reported that about as many students who turned their backs in protest to the speech, applauded and cheered at the end of it. Now, that's sad. And scary.
I hope they run for politics sometime. We could use people like these right about now.
This is real patriotism. The spirit of America is the spirit of dissent. God bless 'em, and thanks for posting this.
Hooray for civil disobedience!!! Stick it to the agents of social control!!!
Civil disobedience involves breaking injust laws. No laws were broken by the demonstrators in this case. It's not civil disobedience.

However, it does make me glad to see people doing the right thing. I'm looking forward to doing a little expat protesting myself when the local dignitary comes through.
can you send me a source for this article!?

I'd love to take it up with the AP.

This "right to privacy" is a myth and veil for those who do things abnormally, unethicaly or just shameful. Shame is now being trumped by the "right to be as preverse as the supreme court will take it" is a great right for the indivual but a serious threat to the cohesion of society.

Does anyone else appreciate the irony of this comment being posted anonymously?
These kids have all been brainwashed by idiot democratic professors. They look like disrespectful self-righteous fools.
Looks like YOU are the one who must have been brainwashed, probably by Rush Limbaugh, O'Reilly or their ilk.
That is awesome!



January 25 2006, 21:13:35 UTC 12 years ago

I'm so glad I go here lol. Somehow i hadn't heard about it though... i'm sure it will come up
That was a bold and commendable statement from them. Let's see if any of them remember what they did as students, later on in life, when they themselves become judges and politicians. Will they fall into Bushistanese rhetorics or will they have the courage and honnesty to empeach the Government themselves?
Georgetown has more public interest minded liberals than you may expect. That slice of the population you saw at the protest isn't going Bushy anytime soon.
I've observed that a lot of people in the states, epecially students, feel they can't make much difference or a change, that they feel like so much corralled sheep. I'm glad to see that these students -do- understand that they ARE the future, and when they stand up and speak out like they did in this instance, heads really do turn. it's a wonderful thing to see.

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