Insomnia (insomnia) wrote,

VP debate...

Well, Cheney didn't do Bush bad, but it wasn't pretty. He got batted upside the ears on Halliburton in a way we're simply not used to seeing him confronted, and Edwards had the best zinger of the night:

"I'm surprised to hear him talk about records. When he was one of 435 members of the United States House, he was one of 10 to vote against Head Start, one of four to vote against banning plastic weapons that can pass through metal detectors.He voted against the Department of Education. He voted against funding for Meals on Wheels for seniors. He voted against a holiday for Martin Luther King. He voted against a resolution calling for the release of Nelson Mandela in South Africa..."

... he also kicks nuns and eats kittens whole.

Did Kerry lay into Bush to that degree at any point? I don't think so. Basically, Cheney found himself in the position of defending indefensible positions, and despite being able to form coherent sentences, he just couldn't do it. He looked downright embarassed trying to defend Bush's support of a constitutional ban on gay marriages. His best points were scored on matters relating to terrorism, but how many times can you scare people about terrorists bringing nuclear weapons into our country, especially when the great majority of cargo coming into this country is uninspected, as both Edwards and Kerry have mentioned?

There are some very legitimate times where candidates of both parties should be adopting and modifying each other's ideas, but it just isn't ideologically possible for the Bush administration to do this, it appears. The debate made it abundantly clear just how poorly they "play with others", especially when Cheney blamed the Democrats for the extreme level of partisanship in Congress.

Cheney further damaged himself by asking people to go to to get the "truth". Well, okay...

And lastly, Edwards just plain looked and comported himself better than Cheney, who squirmed, turned red, and laughed disrespectfully at times.

Apparently, the polls agree with me. CBS shows him as winning decisively, but you should go to and scroll down to the box on the right-side that says "On The Record". Vote in their poll if you saw the debate... or just view the results... Now *that's* saying something!

Cheney was also caught in a big lie. He said that Edwards was too busy to do his job in the Senate and that he never met Edwards there.

Not so. They met on at least two occasions, at a prayer breakfast in 2001, and again in 2003 on the floor of the Senate. Cheney only attends short Tuesday meetings for Republicans in Congress, which would explain why the two of them don't meet all that often... Since the lie is visual in nature, chances are that it will get more media exposure and be more memorable for people in the future.

And in closing...

What most people's lasting impression of the debate will be.

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