Insomnia ([info]insomnia) wrote,
@ 2005-07-03 18:20:00
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When second best is still too expensive...
...it's time to ChooseFresno.com!

I recently found out about the "Choose Fresno" website when I was at the local movie theatres. Seeing the words...

"Choose Fresno"


displayed across the widest movie screen in the South Bay was easily one the funniest things I'd seen in the theatres for quite some time.

From their website:
"Fresno County is a cultural oasis in the Central Valley . . . The Valley's diverse culture is reflected in the county's galleries and museums . . . Located in California's fertile, heavily traveled San Joaquin Valley, Fresno County is the regional hub for business and industry . . . With major market access, competitive costs, abundant labor, and cost-saving incentives, Fresno County is a strategic location for any company and poised to meet the demands of the new economy."

Yes, Fresno! Population 427,652. A city as geographically large as Atlanta, but which still has that small town charm, Fresno is known for its historical landmarks.


Featuring scenic vistas of tantalizingly distant, much nicer places... some of the time.


...and friendly neighbors who share their posessions generously with others.

Famous Facts:
Fresno is the hometown of freerepublic.com, one of the nation's largest and most virulently rightwing websites. When Free Republic planned a large picnic in Fresno, dozens of Free Republic's members started replying to the picnic post, issuing a stream of threats against any minorities who might consider attending. The city, upon finding out about these threats, promptly revoked the group's license for the picnic for violating the city charter, with one city employee saying that the site showed signs of being a "hate group". In retaliation, the owner of Free Republic mobilized their users to bombard the Fresno city government with emails and phone calls, and launched a lawsuit against the city. The city of Fresno, not wanting to endure such a hassle or an expensive legal battle, fired the employee, and settled out of court for $60,000.

What people are saying about Fresno:
"Depressing..." - Fodor's Travel Guides. The only city in California to receive such an honor.

"leads the nation..." *
* In arson, car theft, child poverty, air pollution, water pollution, per capita bankruptcy filings, and needle-related drug crimes.

"This is not some arcane dispute about cow gases. We are talking about a public health crisis. It's not funny to joke about cow burps and farts when one in six children in Fresno schools is carrying an inhaler." - Brent Newell, an attorney for the Center on Race, Poverty & the Environment, on Fresno's methane-rich air pollution

"What a depressing shithole. . . Endless miles of strip malls and women with big hair." - Craptowns.com

"You still think you’re living. But you’re not. No one lives in Fresno. - William Michaelian

"A centrepiece of polluted and dusty farmlands, surrounded by impoverished communities of exploited, undocumented foreign labor living in horrid conditions on miserly wages whilst the rich dine on fresh "mache" in posh restaurants." - Craptowns.com

"I'd probably need to get a penicillin shot before I even went there." - Fuckthatjob.com

"If you happen to pass through Fresno, feel free to throw all of your litter out of the car . . . Go ahead, that's what Fresno's for." - anonymous

Fresno sucks because that is it's nature. That's it. That's the whole story. Yes, we have fucked up politicians, pollution, arson, very bad drivers, Bush supporters, and other assorted morons, idiots and asshats. But to truly understand Why Fresno Sucks, you really have to experience it for yourself (NOT RECOMMENDED)." - Femme Fatale Blog

"The type of town where once you've masturbated the whole day is shot." - Drake Sather

"I never knew a whole town could have Down syndrome." - Drake Sather

"California's extra chromosome." - Slim Rivets

"There's no way it's worse than Bakersfield..." - feedle.net

"Choose Fresno. Choose a job. Choose a career. Choose polluted air, land, and water. Choose extreme poverty and generic stripmall luxury. Choose a fucking big television. Choose a filthy orange skyline. Choose garbage, broken washing machines, and cars on blocks. Choose the best of the worst. Choose a crappy home in the middle of nowhere. Choose your idiot coworkers in a deadend job. Choose sitting on that couch watching mind-numbing sprit- crushing television from somewhere more beautiful, stuffing fucking junk food into your mouth. Choose rotting away at the end of it all, leaving nothing of value to your kids, who are left to live in Fresno too. Choose your future. Choose Fresno... But why would I want to do a thing like that?"

Latest fun Fresno facts!:

- Fresno's mayor, Alan Autry, is best known as playing redneck Officer Bubba on the television series In the Heat of the Night. Nowadays, He is commonly referred to as Mayor Bubba.

- Police made multiple arrests recently in a suspected gangrape of an 11-year-old by as many as eight Fresno college football players... so I guess there is something to do in Fresno after all.

- There's a Xanga blogring for Fresno users, appropriately entitled "Fresno Really Sucks".

- Read up on Fresno's native son, Marcus Wesson. He's one badass, twisted, serial-killing freak.

- Perhaps you remember the time shortly after actress Anne Heche seperated from partner Ellen DeGeneres, when Heche was found wandering through a city, ranting incoherently to the locals, and had to be hospitalized? That city? Fresno, California. You know you're a f*cked up mess, when you...


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Fuck *that* noise.
[info]the_ogre
2005-07-04 04:12 am UTC (link)
I lived in that friggin town for three and a half too-bloody-long years.

"Cultural oasis" my ass. "Spavined development hell" is more like it.

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[info]kyburg
2005-07-04 04:28 am UTC (link)
I attended a journalism convention there once. The impression has stuck with me all the years since.

Depressing. The most depressing place I'd ever been.

And so far, that hasn't changed.

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[info]insomnia
2005-07-04 04:42 am UTC (link)
Chances are, your last salad grew up somewhere nearby, too.

Bon apetit!

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(no subject) - [info]snuh, 2005-07-04 04:51 am UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]pretty492, 2005-07-05 09:16 pm UTC (Expand)
it's not just fresno....
[info]lonestaryankee
2005-07-04 08:11 am UTC (link)
it's the whole damned san joaquin valley. i'm sure of this considering that i had the misfortune of visiting that place repeatedly throughout my childhood (my mum's family was originally from there [sacramento, lodi, stockton, galt, etc] , though they finally got smart and moved out of california), and i lived in lodi back in '93 (what a shithole that place is). i don't expect the valley has gotten any better since i left.

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Re: it's not just fresno....
[info]insomnia
2005-07-04 08:54 am UTC (link)
It *is* the whole damned San Joaquin Valley. That said, the idea that anyone would willingly "choose Fresno" is pretty humorous to me.

I actually found out about the choosefresno website when I was at the movies. Apparently, Fresno is hoping that they can lure Silicon Valley businesses to their fair city. What they don't mention, however, is that the city lacks a talented workforce, and no sane person would relocate from the Bay Area to Fresno if they could possibly avoid it.

And no, it hasn't gotten better out there. It's gotten worse, more polluted, and more of a ugly sprawl than ever.

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Re: it's not just fresno.... - [info]1ginacolada, 2005-07-05 04:45 pm UTC (Expand)
Ha!
[info]triscuits
2005-07-04 08:46 am UTC (link)
Those quotes are spot-on.

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[info]nematoddity
2005-07-04 10:42 am UTC (link)
Man, I'd tend to agree. Don't forget the raisins, either. Raisins being Fresno's official fruit. Which fits, doesn't it--dried up, dehydrated and lacking nearly all life and vigor? :)

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[info]aberranteyes
2005-07-04 01:20 pm UTC (link)
"You call these grapes? They taste like fresno!" — unnamed conquistador

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(no subject) - [info]nematoddity, 2005-07-04 10:08 pm UTC (Expand)

[info]elimloth
2005-07-04 04:48 pm UTC (link)
Fresno tries to pretend; they have Yosemite International airport after all, http://www.flyfresno.org/, and in their WEB site they proclaim in red type "Fresno is Central to Absolutely Everything , so enjoy the adventure!" - NOT.

My recollection of Fresno is that is an endless strip mall with poor housing, poor desperate people, and mega dangerous park lands (what little parks they have). Gangs are in plain sight and it is too easy to get caught in turf battles. As for museums, we decided to check out one of those 'museums' when we returned from Yosemite to wait for our flight out of that hell mouth. The museum turned out to be a closed-up dilapidated building with a few heavily tagged outdoor metal sculptures which looked liked twisted rebar. No thanks!

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[info]capital_m
2005-07-06 12:51 am UTC (link)
What part of Fresno were you in, South Central. I've lived in Fresno practicly all my life I've never seen any thing as violent as you have.

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(no subject) - [info]elimloth, 2005-07-06 03:07 am UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]inthesewoods, 2007-09-20 08:23 pm UTC (Expand)

[info]nosty
2005-07-04 06:49 pm UTC (link)
I've always enjoyed referring to Fresno as FresNoWhere.

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[info]fiercerose
2005-07-05 08:31 pm UTC (link)
I have lived here in Fresno for 20 of my 23 years. Yeah, it's crap, but it's home. And not everyone sucks here.

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[info]babysquid
2005-07-05 08:43 pm UTC (link)
i'm with you.
i lived in some serious shitholes- carbombings being the morning alarm clock of choice- and while i see a lot of problems with this place (even more since I started working for the county) its still better then that.

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(no subject) - [info]insomnia, 2005-07-05 10:12 pm UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]babysquid, 2005-07-05 10:24 pm UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]insomnia, 2005-07-05 10:47 pm UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]babysquid, 2005-07-05 11:18 pm UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]queenstacey, 2005-07-05 08:56 pm UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]insomnia, 2005-07-05 10:51 pm UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]queenstacey, 2005-07-05 10:56 pm UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]insomnia, 2005-07-05 11:02 pm UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]queenstacey, 2005-07-06 04:22 am UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]insomnia, 2005-07-05 10:09 pm UTC (Expand)
on that positive note
[info]antimusick
2005-07-05 08:50 pm UTC (link)
This just shows you how EVIL Fresno is, I guess all these local Churches must be tools of Satan to help make Fresno so bad.

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[info]pretty492
2005-07-05 09:20 pm UTC (link)
I can't imagine how horrible other towns must be if this one was voted All-American town in the not too distant past.

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[info]insomnia
2005-07-05 11:00 pm UTC (link)
Not too distant past? How distant was this? I just googled and couldn't find it. That said, when I was doing the research for my post, I *did* find out that early in the century, the people of Fresno used to call their home "the best little city in the USA". They don't do that anymore, though...

Though there *IS* this tantilizing future history piece on what could happen, if the people of Fresno rose up, overpowered the Republicans who run everything, and fixed the problems the city is facing. It's really quite inspirational.

But hey, who am I kidding?! That would *NEVER* fly! ;-)

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(no subject) - [info]pretty492, 2005-07-05 11:35 pm UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]fiercerose, 2005-07-06 02:10 am UTC (Expand)

[info]get_thier_heads
2005-07-05 09:32 pm UTC (link)
...pussies.

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[info]insomnia
2005-07-05 10:13 pm UTC (link)
Come... rise up out of the desert. Come back to civilization before it's too late! ;-)

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[info]nuerosphere
2005-07-05 10:07 pm UTC (link)
This post is fucking beautiful.

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[info]kristin80
2005-07-05 10:34 pm UTC (link)
"No sane person would relocate from the Bay Area to Fresno if they could possibly avoid it."

Came here from Santa Cruz. Hello. Isn't as bad as I used to think it was. Came here totally by choice. Please don't beat me up.

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[info]insomnia
2005-07-05 10:40 pm UTC (link)
So, do you like Santa Cruz better? Would you choose Fresno?!

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(no subject) - [info]kristin80, 2005-07-05 11:41 pm UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]gynocide, 2005-07-08 02:22 am UTC (Expand)
(no subject) - [info]kristin80, 2005-07-08 03:06 pm UTC (Expand)

[info]elimloth
2005-07-06 03:22 am UTC (link)
Fresno was one of several cities awarded the All-America designation in 2000 by Civics League whose purpose is to encourage community involvement in problem situations (gang violence, public housing), and work to increase business development. See http://www.ncl.org/aac/about.html for details.

BTW, Fresno was a finalist AAC (but did not win) in 1999.

After reading the National Civics League WEB pages, I am not certain that having the AAC designation says much about how nice a place is - it seems it gives credit to cities trying to come to grip with major problems, a good thing indeed, but not a shiny star in the absolute sense.

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All American Poverty
(Anonymous)
2005-11-16 07:45 am UTC (link)
So what the hell happened?
This program (award) did nothing for this city....perhaps thats why they moved onto another city???

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[info]wen_wu_xing
2005-07-06 05:48 pm UTC (link)
Actual Real Estate Billboard off of Bay Bridge in SF...

"Don't Resort to Fresno"

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[info]gynocide
2005-07-08 02:24 am UTC (link)
I'd love to have a picture of that.

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facts and figures aside
[info]420love
2005-07-07 01:17 am UTC (link)
fresno does breed toughness and ingenuity in those willing to be inspired. on the other hand it breeds despair, helplessness, hopelessness, and smallmindedness. i believe anyone living there or having lived there intimately knows what i am talking about.

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[info]gynocide
2005-07-08 02:19 am UTC (link)
I've lived in Fresno for 25 years and this shit cracked me up. I can see why people are mad, but I can also see the truth in it. Another thing that makes me laugh about all of this is so many people that consider themselves and their locale hip/cool/progressive/enlightened/whatever sure do spend a lot of time clowing places like Fresno for "not being openminded enough."

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[info]insomnia
2005-07-08 04:25 am UTC (link)
What's telling is that almost all of the links I found that ripped into Fresno weren't from people who live elsewhere, but from people who lived in Fresno themselves.

I don't consider Fresno closeminded. I consider some people closeminded.

That said, Fresno is a place that I would personally never live. That's not closemindedness, though. It's just that Fresno has very, very little to offer me that I would want or appreciate, with the possible exception of being closer than here to Yosemite.

Given all the choices out there, I would never "choose Fresno".

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(no subject) - [info]gynocide, 2005-07-08 05:39 am UTC (Expand)

[info]deadrelatives
2005-08-13 01:54 am UTC (link)
awesome! nice addition.

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Hubcapland
[info]matuso
2005-11-21 08:57 am UTC (link)
My friends and I have grown up in Fresno for fifteen years. It sucks. We refer to it as "Hubcapland" because...it is. It's so depressing. Driving down Blackstone in the middle of summer is like...it's incomparable to anything. It really truly is. There is nothing I can compare riding down Blackstone in the middle of summer to. It's like taking superdepressant pills and then walking down the derelict part of Las Vegas.

Fresno is weirdly charming. It's so disgusting, it's beautiful. It's so depressing, it's magical. A little while ago I took my video camera down to that mall where Signature Theater is, and filmed the entire place, with all its boarded-up shops and fountains and emptiness. It's extremely sad. I plan on keeping the videotapes in case they ever renovate/destroy that mall because I love the look of it, and it would be great in a film. I've been taking videocameras everywhere in this fucking town and I want to kill myself because Fresno sucks that much.

The smoggy sunsets, the 110-degree heat, the thick fog in the winter, the one big rainshower in October, the second one in April, the newspaper tumbling around Blackstone, the horribleness of Callichi's (you have not lived until you have seen the inside of that horrible pink place...it's just so FREAKING SAD), the disgusting skyline, the strip mall, the whole town cloasing down at 11, the strip clubs, the sad downtown, the cul-de-sacs, the irritating people, the fairgrounds, the area near the fairgrounds, the Tower Disctrict, the sadness that is Fresno TV, Wild Water Adventures, The Island (oh dear god), the rolling blackouts, the smog, the heat, the two seasons, the disgusting look of the whole place DEAR GOD GET ME OUT OF THIS HELLHOLE.

Hold on, I'm going to go beat up my parents for raising me here.

Wow. Fresno gives you moodswings.

Actually, Fresno is nice. Damn, this place sucks.

GAH.

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(Anonymous)
2006-07-19 02:10 am UTC (link)
fresno is better than iraq.

ya it sucks but as said before it is home; as unfortunate as that is.

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[info]insomnia
2006-07-19 04:37 am UTC (link)
Yes, indeed. Fresno *IS* better than Iraq!

(Unless, of course, you live in Fresno, and wish you were dead. In which case, Iraq might be a better choice.)

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[info]inthesewoods
2007-09-20 08:20 pm UTC (link)
bravo!

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